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  1. JohnGrant213

    Another old timer is now gone. He seemed like a pretty old school low key kind of mobster considering the fact that he was in the mix for these well publicized Gambino family stories over the years yet his name never really stuck out and I am sure many don’t know much about him and his mob career over all.

    • D-C4

      He was not that low key, back in the early 90’s he owned a bar in Bay Ridge “Foul Play” Monday Night Football there was like a who’s who of wise guys. RIP

  2. puffdaugherty

    Ive only rarely heard that name. Story shows just how treacherous Gotti Jr was becoming. Wasnt Joe Watts one of Gotti Sr’s best friends? By all accounts a real tough guy as well. He was one of the guys that Mikie Scars made unusual comments about eluding to the possibility that he may have been a non Italian Made guy. I’ve never found any concrete answers regarding Watts being formally inducted but there was some talk of it. Wouldn’t be surprised if Junior had no plans to ever go through with killing those guys and was just posturing to save face in front of the troops. Not saying Junior never killed or wasn’t capable but I get the impression he was no stone killer like Watts or some of the others. Junior has always appeared like a spoiled child riding fathers coat tails. Just the way it appears from an outsider. Just never struck me as any kind of impressive character. His father for all his faults and arrogance was said to be a proper tough guy at least. Maybe too much of a tough guy and not enough finesse to balance out the top spot in a Borgata that large and powerful at the time.

    • JohnGrant213

      Yeah Watts was a Gotti Sr guy and I have not seen any info from a legit source confirming that he was ever made and most likely was just a well connected associate. I am not sure if Gotti would have whacked those guys in the end either and it is very possible he was just puffing up for the guys around him.

      • puffdaugherty

        Yea I forget where I read it but it was an interview with Mikie Scars and he made some cryptic comments regarding the status of Watts. No one was quite sure what he meant. No doubt Watts was an associate on a higher level then most. Some of these guys are almost as good as Made with maybe just a few exceptions just like some early Outfit guys like Murry Humphries, Jake Guzik. The German Schweighs, Gussy Alex. No Average Made Soldier was telling those guys what to do. Jimmy Burke also probably. Can you imagine some regular Wiseguy from any family trying to muscle those guys or pull rank. Even Frattiano was sort of admonished by The Outfit bosses for messing with Sydney Korshak. He mentioned that in his own book.

    • Jeff Hanneman

      Watts was never inducted but supposedly holds the honorary rank of captain. He was real close with Gotti sr.and allegedly did alot of hits for him. The highest ranking non- Italian with the Gambino family allegedly..

      • puffdaugherty

        That would make sense. I can see him having an unofficial title like that. Gotti definitely had a lot of power in his heyday but he was no Vito Rizzuto hah

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