The feds busted ten suspected New York mobsters including Bonanno crime family acting boss Joseph Cammarano Jr. on racketeering charges.
The recently unsealed federal indictment charged the alleged wiseguys with a variety of crimes that took place between 2012 to 2018 including extortion, conspiracy to commit murder, and drug dealing. Also charged along with Cammarano were John “Porky” Zanocchio and Simone Esposito identified as Bonanno family consiglieres along with suspected captains Joseph “Joe Valet” Sabella and George “Grumpy” Tropiano. According to the feds, the Bonnano mobsters met with members and associates of other New York Mafia families to resolve disputes over criminal activities.
Cammarano reportedly became the Cosa Nostra families acting boss back in 2015 in an effort to stabilize the faltering organization. He is the son of a former mafia underboss who died in prison and is a Navy veteran who once served in an elite patrol unit aboard a nuclear submarine. He took over the crime families day to day operations while official boss Michael “The Nose” Mancuso remains a guest of the government. The indictment also charged Bonanno family soldier Albert “Al Muscles” Armetta with beating an unidentified victim on Halloween in 2015 for the purpose of gaining entrance into the family. Domenick Miniero and Joseph “Joey Blue Eyes” Santapaolo were also charged and identified as made members of the Bonanno family.
Suspected Lucchese crime family soldier named Eugene “Boobsie” Castelle and Genovese crime family soldier Ernest “Butch” Montevecchi were also charged for teaming up with Bonanno family members on one or more criminal schemes.
Fedz been busy as of late
They are really hitting these guys hard at the moment few years ago they were benefiting from lack of FBI attention looks like those days are over. This will probably just be the beginning aswell because with all these recent indictments most wont rat but there will be a few guys who will and even one guy becoming a rat can be all it takes for the feds to build another case i think this year we are going to see alot more indictments.
Plus i think alot of these cases such as the luchese indictment have been getting built for a number of years now. Going to be interesting what happens to the Bonanno family now who takes over on the streets Mancuso is out in a year or two aswell would not surprise me with this family we end up with another power struggle like in 2015
What is up with the Bonanno’s and all the recent endictment? Was there a ???? in the family from the recent Bonanno and Canadian arrests in November? Seems somebody has to be talking. Funny how we haven’t really heard anything else from the Canadian arrests. Those guys are as quiet as church mice.
Ya I don’t think there here been a made guy or high ranking member thats become an informant
Not that we know of yet I don’t think.
peter lovaglio was high up i mean the guy was a capo before he became rat so would not surprise if some of this came from him.
According to the indictment they seemed paranoid there was a rat joe c and others had made an entire list of guys who could possibly be a rat and who they need to watch out for and the fact they are under indictment shows they were right to be paranoid.
Def could be the Pug (good call there) although wouldn’t be shocked if we see another name pop up in this mess as well. One thing is for sure the feds have started off the new year letting these guys know that diminished resources or not they are still around and making cases where ever they can.
A high likelihood another name will pop up… The more indictments the better the chances of getting people to talk to avoid time.
They are not playing around at the moment there is going to be alot of very nervous guys on the streets now because this is likely to just be the beginning
Dont get me wrong he cannot be the only rat with all the indictments coming down but he was before he became a rat a capo meaning he would have alot information for the feds on the leadership of the Bonanno family. He was also from my understanding a rat or at least speaking to the FBI before he was pulled of the streets which is why among other reasons he got shelved. Remember capeci talking about before he was outed officially as rat he got pulled over and they found a knife and he went on same crazy rant about how he had been a capo and he needed the knife because the family were trying to kill him. This makes me think he was a rat for a long time and if he was wearing a wire this could be very bad for these guys.
Your right lovaglio could def be doing a lot of this damage have to figure as a captain he def met with guy all up and down the administration.
I think the odds are that we see a new rat pop up somewhere in one of these cases. This bust goes all the way to the top of the ladder so hard to imagine the feds made this case without a helping hand.
They feds almost always have a helping hand, i.e rat. When do these guys ever get caught in the act? Without rats , bugs , and wiretaps the feds would never build a case. They didn’t give any details on how they busted these guys, that means they’re hiding some rats. If it was due to ” good police work” they would touting their excellent police skills.
First and foremost both the prosecution and defense divulge as little as possible before the trial as to not tip their hand to the other side.
As far as the Feds with use of technology, are you joking? Your statement is akin to being critical of any Organized Crime group being involved in any racket that involves modern technology. I get there is quite a bit of root for the bad guy in this forum, myself included. Some of these statements just get so outlandish though.
Historically how many murders do you think get caught in the act? Investigating is kinda part of police work. This dates back way before bugs, taps, or RICO Act.
How many mob murders are caught in the act? 1%. The “investigating ” comes after somebody starts snitching. I’ll qoute the rat big Ron Previte who was a cop for years , “there’s no such thing as good police work”. As for RICO that’sa bullshit law they came up with because it was too hard to nail these guys on anything. The prosecution has to divulge Everything before trial, its called discovery. Please tell me what was “outlandish” that I said.
i can speak for Montreal, law enforcement has been able to arrest the leadership of the Mob without a single rat. they used bugs, and were able to break there blackberries (PGP). its actually how they solved the montagna murder. however it definitly does help having informants
Yes , that was my point. The only way they make cases is a bug, rat, or a wiretap.
good point what other way would there be.
I think he’s trying to say it’s unfair because they get caught.
Ok you mean using those techniques (bugs, wiretaps) is unfair gvt advantage?
Lol, yes that’s what it sounds like to me. No accountability though for those foolish enough to be caught on tape when they know it’s an ever present threat.
I ll agree that some aspects of RICO are bullshit and should be unconstitutional. I highly doubt 1% of Mob murders are caught in the act. Are 1% of all murders for that matter. They divulge information to the defense attorney not the public.
It’s outlandish that you feel using bugs and taps is not good police work. I would argue that it’s being a poor criminal being caught speaking on a tap or a bug.
These guys just cannot catch a break!!! The Bonanno’s always seem to get hammered from all sides, especially from within! Do you think they have poor recruiting standards or are they just simply unlucky?
It is so pervasive with the Bonanno’s I think it not being unlucky, but has something to do with their organization…
they have issues that family has have never really been stable i guess apart from the massimo era but look how that ended. I dont think there recruitment standards are dramatically different from any of the other familys to be honest i know they apparently mass inducted 10+ guys including mancusos nephew back in 2015 and that was said to have upset some guys in other familys such as the luchese family but that had to be done due to so many members being in prison and other familys have done this in recent years so i dont think it is recruitment. It is probably a number of issues the lack of stability in that family probably plays apart always been very violent and lots of power struggles who knows to be honest.
Met with other families to discuss issues? That stood out to me, could that mean theres sometype of a commission in place? I wouldnt doubt it, ya never know.
Yea, that stood out to me and I was wondering the same thing! If the families are cooperating with each other–a recent indictment suggest they are… Then you’d think there has to be some sort of something in place to divide things and settle disputes.
familys have always been cooperating never stopped dont know where this myth that all the familys after the commission were taken down suddenly stopped working together. There has been joint family indictments every single year since 1985 infact the majority of mafia indictments against the five familys have been mixed in recent years familys are actually working together more than in the past due to declining membership.The issues were probably the same things they always discuss joint rackets who gets what i have also seen unconfirmed reports that the meetings were about complying a list of potential and suspected rats. People dont realize that some crews in different familys are closer than crews within there own familys some of the luchese guys in the Bronx and New Jersey would be closer to the Genovese crews in the same area than a luchese crew in Brooklyn.
It has also been shown that even the familys outside of New York are in regular contact because there is business opportunitues available and these guys are always crossing paths with each other some times on the streets sometimes in prison. DeCavancte family is under the Gambinos we know that from stagno tapes, Philly mob when they had beef with the lucheses and DeCavantes for stepping on the North Jeresys crews operations the entire leadership met up with senior gambinos such as Truccherio and John Gambino met up and sorted out the issues so there is clearly a protcal in place to stop disputes turning violent
I personally dont think there is a commission of what it was in the 80s meaning i dont think the leaders of the five familys are meeting its too risky in this and age but i do believe that leading figures representing the leadership may regularly all come together to sort out issues the last confirmed meeting of this sort was 2000 with peter gotti, sal vitale, Corezzo Dadione etc and that was to sort out the colombo family.
Prob not a “commission” per say. But seems likely that families still have sit downs to settle any disputes and discuss join business interest.
depends what your view of a commission is i guess i am almost certain as there is alot of evidence supporting the view that high ranking members of each of the five familys meet up together and occasionally meet members and leaders from familys outside of New York eg Ligambi,Merlino,Dinunzio, DeCavalcantes. However i personally find it unlikely that there is a commission of what existed in the 80s where five bosses are sitting down together too risky because of the FBI especially as some familys dont even have a single boss some having used ruling panels or use alot of fronts such as street bosses to insulate themselves in recent years.
Ultimately they are criminal groups located in close proximity or over lapping each other. Just like they have associates of all nationalities and races, they are pretty unbiased when it comes to earning. I feel everyone wants to believe there is a commission since it romanticize’s the Mob or that they are something grander than they truly are. They will work with each other or any other criminal group or individual if potential profit is there.
It blows my mind how the feds are still going after these guys when they aren’t killing anyone anymore. I get it they’re still an organization with tons of members but so are these gangs and cartels that are importing drugs and killing people.
Oh looky here, with every big bust comes the big talk that La Cosa Nostra is dead. The bitch ass government will never destroy La Cosa Nostra, no matter how many rats they bring to the table. Over the years what’s left of LCN has built up an immunity to rat infestation to the point where it hardly matters how many rats turn up for their cheese, kind of like how our immunity system works when exposed to a virus so many times.