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      • JohnGrant213

        I am wondering the same although i think its probably unlikely. But then again when looking a 30 spot in the eye at 50 i guess it definitely has to be taken into consideration. If the feds are offering any kind of deal which i am not sure of , not sure exactly what he could give them that would be relevant enough now to get him that deal.

        • bellomo boss

          True. What can he offer at this point? His Dad is a lifer already. I don’t think the Luchese’s hold him in high regard and I would imagine Crea is pretty insulated. Madonna, Napoli are going away for life already.

          Off topic, does anyone have update on Joseph Lubrano since his release? Is his “captain” status exaggerated?

          • JohnGrant213

            Yes i don’t think he was in on much NJ business outside of some Jersey stuff so would doubt he would have info that feds would be able to use against current admins including crea.

            Haven’t heard much on Lubrano since his release last year , he has kind of been off the radar. Would think there is a chance he holds capo rank.

          • Curiosity

            I’m not so sure but I’ve heard of Nicky Jr doing construction jobs for Crea. I’ve also heard the higher ups in New York like him. So I think Jr may know more than we think.

          • JohnGrant213

            Very possible i mean he was a top end earner and that can often gain favor of the higher ups. So i guess perhaps there may be something there deal wise. Still not sure he rats though doesn’t seem to be in his blood.

          • bellomo boss

            It’s possible, I believe Nicky and crea were made in early 90’s. Amuso/Casso made them both. It’s possible they were connected through rackets

          • JohnGrant213

            Very true if he could swing a deal it would definitely be worth considering at his age and that amount of years.

          • Curiosity

            It definitely would be intriguing to see. I could not imagine Scarfo Senior’s reaction.

          • The mafia

            He was doing construction jobs for crea nicjy made huge money he would hold court on construction sites regualy he is a major earner don’t forget he had three of the five families backing him in 2008 to kill Joe ligambi he was a big earner and the five families liked that

          • Dom Woods

            I think lubrano’s status is overrated , he came up with the santorelli’s and got his button wen he went to prison for the santorelli’s

      • The mafia

        Never he would not do that to his family philip can cry about it to the press but nicky is 50 he is a man now not the same kid he knew in the 80s nicky will never flip and he does not have much info to give anyway

        • Curiosity

          Who do you mean by his family? I suppose I just don’t have the mentality but if he could cooperate and get out of jail wouldn’t that be good for his family. I guess you’re referring to the shame it would bring to his family, right?
          Anyways, I have no opinion one way or the other as to if he would. I doubt he would but more shocking things have happened.

          • The mafia

            his father was the boss through the 80s and is a evil man very manipultative i have read the wiretaps nicky senior was very much involved in this. Cooperate? his father would disown him he does whatever his father wants and look he got 30 years and was nearly killed in the 80s he does not want to move his wife and his kids into hiding for him plus he believes in the life its impossible to explain why most guys dont cooperate its just something they grow up with you dont rat your friends and nick junior was defo brought up that way.

  1. Ryan Boonique Clark

    When did Jr. Become capo of the jersey crew? I always thght the guy was just a soldier, who just so hppn to be the son of a former mob boss & a good damn earner. Whre did the writer get he was capo over the lucchese jerseys operations information…..ijs.

    • The mafia

      He was made capo of New jeresy because nicky scarfo sr got vic amuso to reach out to the guys on the streets and they promoted him as a favour he was demoted because he was too soft and he was spending all his time in altanitc city trying to build a separate crew so he could whack joe ligambi

      • bellomo boss

        Why would he want philly? Seems strange. Philly is a joke compared to Lucheses. Plus not much money in philly. Besides, he would still have to kick up to crea indirectly. Not disputing it, simply saying i dont get it.

        • The mafia

          his father and he wants to be boss. He was paying three of the five familys. Nikcy senior wants the job and new york wanted him as boss espicaly the genovese, lucheses and gambinos.Nicky junior was not killer he wanted new york to do the hits for him and they would have because even in today mafia new york are still a very deadly and they were in a win win situation with nicky taking over three familys were getting money from nickys fraud scam in return for backing him some very high level guys were taking money and if nicky junior took over the lucheses would be able to gain philly terriorty because nicky would be a proxy for new york and lucheses are very interested in joey scoops rackets remember 2010 joey and big lou sat down with the gambinos because the lucheses were moving in on philly and the philly went to the gambinos for help. If nicky junior took over no doubt about it joey scoops would have to be whacked because NO way is joey scoops reporting to scarfo junior. The genovese and gambino failys having been for years trying to set up rackets in philly the poker machines they have been interested in for years with junior in charge they could have moved in. Johnny chang and steve mazzone were out of prison then and them two would be against junior as would joey merlino in florida things would of been very messy but the scarfo guys phil frank enzo tory they might have gone behind scarfo

  2. The mafia

    I always wonder what would of happened if he did not get arrested for this he was building a crew up and had New york support to take over philly he had his father giving advice. I think there would of been a few bodies. Nicky approach joe cicaganlin trying to get support to take the family over but from what I hear joe said no. Nicky was trying to buy his way into the family he was sending money to three of the five families the lucheses and gambinos have been identified the third family is used known suspected to be the Genovese family they promised to kill Joe ligambi it was a tense time a lot of people don’t know about this. Nicky said on wiretap that he was scared that he was going to get whacked because his parole meant he had to work and he said that made him a sitting duck.
    He also got very angry at perluo when he went to Philly he said that he is not allowed near philly because he could get whacked everyone was gearing up for trouble scarfo was not interested in the luchese capo job he was already making huge money its why he did not complain when he was demoted he wanted to be boss of the philly mob he approached several mobsters offering them money to join his side. Joey scoops was caught on tape saying how much he hates scarf junior things were tense. Scarfo junior said on tape if had a couple more years he would be ready to take philly because he would then have a crew and guys who would kill Joe ligambi I personally think that scarfo junior would of been killed before he made it Joe would of acted first but if scarfo did hit joe then steve and John and stanio and mouse would have had hit back and then New York would get involved things would have got messy

    • JohnGrant213

      I think there definitely would of been problems on the streets and violence would erupted, although with the backing of NY he would of been in a prime spot to take make a strong push. He would of def had to be bold to move Ligambi out and i think his guys would of been more then willing to strike back to hold on to control , it would of been quite messy.

      • The mafia

        nicky senior was telling junior to build support but junior is not as dumb as some think he is he knew he was not strong enough to hit joe on his own and perullo was not a killer its why he approcahed joe cicanglini he was offering guys money i return to join him but he was building it on tape he says one year and then the “iron fist” comes down the feds said in the court documents that junior meant he was going to wait a year to build a crew so he could fight joe. Nicky junior was not killer he wanted new york to do the hits for him and they would have because even in today mafia new york are still a very deadly and they were in a win win situation with nicky taking over three familys were getting money from nickys fraud scam in return for backing him some very high level guys were taking money and if nicky junior took over the lucheses would be able to gain philly terriorty because nicky would be a proxy for new york and lucheses are very interested in joey scoops rackets remember 2010 joey and big lou sat down with the gambinos because the lucheses were moving in on philly and the philly went to the gambinos for help. If nicky junior took over no doubt about it joey scoops would have to be whacked because NO way is joey scoops reporting to scarfo junior. The genovese and gambino failys having been for years trying to set up rackets in philly the poker machines they have been interested in for years with junior in charge they could have moved in. Johnny chang and steve mazzone were out of prison then and them two would be against junior as would joey merlino in florida things would of been very messy but the scarfo guys phil frank enzo tory they might have gone behind scarfo

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