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  1. JohnGrant213

    Oh I am sure even at 77 he will find a way to get back into the fold somehow he seems like one of those mobster till he dies type guys. More than likely he steps back into Spagnolo’s crew once he gets back on the street.

      • The mafia

        this is just wiseguy greed lol its easy money they will go for anything big or small remember tony megale underboss entire Gambino family getting busted for taking $150 a month. He will have had several things going on Spagnelo especially this is just one of the things they happened to get busted for its not a lot but it is easy to get.

        These shakedowns can bring in a lot I remember Anthony DiNunzuo saying on tape his family were taking 50k a month from shaking down strip clubs now It would not surprise me if he was just bragging trying to impress nicky skins a high ranking Gambino member because he was ranting about several things including how he would kill anyone who does not pay him and how he would like to dig a guy up and kill him again of course that idiot trying to impress New York got him that prison time. Dident help how high profile he was aswell

    • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

      Anyone who’s been following the Mafia for long enough knows that rank doesn’t mean a lot in the mob, unless you’re the official boss. At least I don’t think so.

        • The mafia

          of course rank matters there is no doubt about it having a higher position within the family does mean you have the opportunity to make a lot however its more complicated than that there is a lot of soldiers who make millions but never made it above soldier never will now that Is because sometimes some soldiers don’t want a promotion it brings heat from the feds they can make a lot more in the shadows look at guys like Robert DeBello twice they asked him to be capo both times he refused he is a millionaire why would he want the position

          Others never get the chance because of the lack of positions avaibile remember this family only has what 5 6 capos not often there is a opportunity. Also the biggest reason for promotion is luck if you are on good terms with leading members in a family you can end up in a position rarely guys get promoted without having someone vouch for them to the administration. Some guys are also not violent enough look at scarfo junior he got made capo by his father and vic amuso in 2005 within two years he had been demoted now it was not because of his earning abilitys it was because partly his interested in taking over the philly mob but also because the pernas who were the more violent and street guys scarfo junior was a white collar non violent guy.

          My point Is it is a lot harder to get a top position than people think remember 95% of these guys will never have a leadership position

      • IntheknowD

        You understand that rank is the basis of the whole power structure behind the Mafia, right? From associate through boss each step has more power and influence then the next. Without ranks the Mafia would not be what it is.

    • Noah

      Solider is still a member of family and they often have several associates under them. I would assume plenty of active guys in 60s and up who never get made.

      • Cedz

        i understand that, i was just saying this day in age guys get busted or killed at 77 you think he would have moved up the latter. however as some other members explained the majority of guys in the life never end up being leaders. i guess its comparable to somebody who works for a major company, (GM, ford, Apple) just cause they work there for a long time doesn’t necessarily mean there going to be vp or president….

  2. Savin Rock AL

    I don’t know alot about New York but Patriarch family and south Philly I know well…There is major Italian population in Rhode island and Connecticut and north end Boston….So Football ???? sports wagering is huge and policy slips ….still today major gambling money in Connecticut Rhode island and Boston and when the guys who bet can’t pay then Loansharks are introduced to the better who owes money ????…….so mob makes money of not only sports wagering but Loan sharks tied to the patriarch family or new England mob….Patriarch mob AKA New England mob…has money to be made…..its alive and kicking cheese man And matty the horse and associates……

    • Noah

      Here in CT I hear about Genovese/Gambino busts in Hartford/New Haven/Fairfield counties from time to time(and know of some sports betting bars/shady social clubs) but I never hear of anything with the Patriarch family in eastern CT. Wondering if they are doing something right or if there isn’t much action/associates in eastern CT.

      • Savin Rock AL

        There has always been since 1950s patriarch family members and associates in New Haven,..as in Billy the wild guy Grasso era 1960-1990…Middletown, Hartford, Hamden and more in Connecticut….i won’t discuss current figures….but New Haven west to New York is controlled by New York families..New Haven east and north east Raymond Patriarch territory now called New England mob…..

        • Noah

          Not sure how much he was operating in New Haven county but I know local east haven man Eugene “Rooster” O’Nofrio (of LCN Enterprise case fame) is pretty high up in the Genovese family. I thought post Grasso the Patriarch family fell way back in CT, not too clear, except busts have been NYC family people. Good for Patriarch people if they can stay active, and out of the papers, in New Haven / Hartford. Love those old Grasso stories, really too bad the Patriarch family imploded after he died.

          • Savin Rock AL

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  3. Clinton CeeRay Fussell

    Until I see a story break out about the Patriarca crime family running multi-million dollar scams, I’m not impressed nor convinced that they are even a force to be reckoned with.

    • Cedz

      im really not sure what your point is, yesterday you said rank has no meaning in the mob. and now your saying guys dont make any money in the mob? also a lot of mobsters do have legitimate business.

      • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

        I swear some people only come here to try to prove someone else wrong. Am I not entitled to my own opinions? I didn’t say that mob guys don’t make any money. I said that until I see proof that the Patriarca crime family is still making big bucks and not small time scams, they are small potatoes as far as I’m concerned. That’s MY opinion. Sure a lot of mobsters are involved in legitimate business, but people don’t follow the mob to read about making money legitimately. How f*****g boring would that be? If I wanted to read about legitimate money making I would just go read about corporations. I think most would agree that the appeal of organized crime is generating DIRTY money. The Godfather wouldn’t have been as successful if it was a movie about, say, ExxonMobil or imagine if GoodFellas was about Microsoft. BORING!

        • Cedz

          sorry maybe im tired long day at work i still dont no what the fuck your talking about…. i dont understand were this whole legit/illegal stuff came from nobody said anything. you just came out of left field with that lol.

          • Cedz

            you said rank doesnt matter then people commented. then you said I’m not impressed nor convinced that they are even a force to be reckoned with. That’s with any LCN family. Isn’t that the whole appeal behind the Mafia, making big bucks, ILLEGALLY?

          • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

            The reason why I brought that up is because one of the biggest discussions I see these days in regards to the American Mafia is, Are they still out there making serious money? Money is how a lot of people are judging the current health of the mob. How much money an LCN family makes ultimately determines their place in the world of organized crime. I am not saying that the Patriarca crime family isn’t a force, I’m saying that I haven’t seen anything in the news to suggest that they are.

          • Cedz

            well nobody in this forum has ever said the mob makes as much money as they used in the past. do they still make money of course otherwise there would be no mob but obviously not as much as they used too. i think most people agree to that. >Dont get frustrated cause people are often disagreeing with your points

          • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

            I don’t know if you look at some of the figures from some of the present day mob scams it seems like they in fact make even more money. But as a whole the mob makes less money generally speaking.

          • Cedz

            wow you have zero idea what your taking about you say until you see a story break about multimillion dollar deals now your taking about huge figures in modern day scams …

          • Cedz

            wow you have no clue what your taking about l!! you say your not convinced that the mmob is a force and makes a lot of money now your saying they in fact make more…. do u smoke crack?

          • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

            Are you on crack? Did I f*****g say that those scams involve the Patriarca crime family?

          • IntheknowD

            And I did not specify Patricia or any other family or families. In general the Mafia made way more money off of rackets in the past. However, certain rackets these days do generate massive profits be it Wall St scams or online gaming. That’s more to do with economies of scale though not creativity or ingenuity.

            No I’m off the “crack” of your moms ass. I pulled out shot it on her tramp stamp and gave her one of those ass slaps she so craves. ????????????

          • IntheknowD

            It is called “inflation”. Believe it or not a $ dollar in Al Capone’s day is not worth same amount as a $ dollar today other than face value of currency.

        • Patricia Answorth

          Clint This is your mother. Do you have any clue as to how much I worry about you. Some times I actually want to talk to you to give you a little money. With the way you live your life I never know if you’ve been murdered or in prison.

        • IntheknowD

          People don’t come on here to prove others wrong. It is just that you constantly make absurd outlandish statements that you try and pass as fact. And if you see something in the does that by no means is a good evaluation of the mob doing well. When you read about crime in the news that is a bad thing as it means someone(s) got busted.

          • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

            No you’re f*****g wrong. Everyone gets f*****g busted sooner or later especially if your crime is pulling in a lot of money.

          • IntheknowD

            Just an assumption here, but I’m gonna have to guess you missed some of your meds.

            So you attribute the strength of a crime family to the number of times they get busted? You buddy are a true fxcking dipshxt.

          • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

            I’m saying that busts can be expected. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they are weak or strong, but it does prove that they are still around. Take cities that used to have LCN families. You don’t hear about mob busts there anymore. Why? Because they are defunct. Extinct. Nonexistent.

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