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  1. bellomo boss

    I’ve always heard both guys are hotheads. Maybe shelve them both. From what I’ve read, neither is a huge earner and seem to always have problems. Will Merlino get caught up in this? We find find out if he’s truly out soon.

    • The mafia

      Won’t happen

      Your forgetting joey is a hothead and very dumb

      He grew up with marty,steve and George

      He loves marty used to love George

      Marty is a thug but decent leg breaker how the guy got to be ligambis underboss and merlinos capo says all you need to know about philly the tuy would never even get made in New york

      Marty mucked up a 80k score back in the 90s

      George earns but a nut job he won’t get whacked ligambi will look out for him because of the his mum

      George needs to relax but he can’t not is nature

      This all goes back to trying to shake down lou who was Georges guy on the streets taking his loansharking racket away geogre stopped making money after that then Lou. Flipped

      Lou tried to kill marty

      People used to say joey steve marty and George would never betray each other and were there own family I don’t know looks like the old junior mob are fighting

        • The mafia

          I don’t know about that but I would be surprised marty is the most loyal back in the 80s scarf wanted to kill joey merlino so did philip leonetti. Everyone was told you are not a load to hang around with joey but marty kept on hanging around so scarfo junior and tory scadfi battered Marty with bats for hanging with joey merlino

    • Ryan Boonique Clark

      Ths is wht we had expected when Marty & Georgie got out. We knew it was gonna be conflict, as I stated b4 when it was reported tht George was bck on the streets tht the leaders as a whole will hve to deal wth him in a collective way….ths is an situation tht can hve real serious ripple effects on every one if not handle properly & diplomatically, I’m stll rooting for thse guys to get their sht together….ijs.

      • The mafia

        A lot of angry guys in Philly a lot of broke guys.

        Geogre got nothing johnny chang and his father chickie earning good johnny only gave a little bit of delware country rackets back.

        Truth is not much to share around

        Stanio built up some major rackets he was a big earner before he went away I wonder who took over his crew when he went away

        Joey living of kickups to dumb to set up his own scams apart from betting into bookies but he has smart guys steve and johnn kicking up good money esp johnny chang. Steve is decent earner

        Marty is dumb can’t earn even if he had anything

        Mikey lance is a big time earner I dont know how the Feds have not convicted him never been convicted by the Feds indicted in 2008 in the borgata indictment with nicdemeo beats the trial. Suspected shooter in loads of hits in the 90s ralph natale said he did the hits while mikey lance was in the visiting area of the courtroom in joey trial back in 2001

        Joey scoops earns good keeps on the good books since scarfo whoever running things he sends a envelope to with good money runs a HUGE gambling operation he will retire soon then big lou will take over though joey grande has his eyes on it but lou has has been prepared for the job

        Joey pung making good money very independent though earning well him and his brother and a couple of others I don’t know if they are even kicking up don’t think he cares about the mob hierarchy

        Philip sends money to Steve they don’t want hassle

        • Ryan Boonique Clark

          Yeah I agree when scoops gve it up it will be big Lou ‘ s turn wthout question . not too mention the fct big lou is in good wth NY, grande I’m not sure he is respected lke big lou is outside the family.if he whre to try sme sht I doubt he’ll get the proper spprt needed in a situation lke tht…ijs

          • JohnGrant213

            Right respected across the board and that def will go a long way to him stepping up and will surely help aid him in being challenged by anyone including Grande.

          • The mafia

            i think grande wont make a complaint scoops saved him back when joey got out he got into some beefs with some guys in philly joe ligambi wanted him to shelve him

            (like he alledgly did with nicky the whip though i have heard joey pung has made contact with the whip operating independently)

            scoops said he wanted grande in his crew saying he would help strength his crew you see people dont realize joey grande is a hot head always in trouble back in the 80s no suprise he got in trouble then but scoops controlled him when scoops and licita were away it was sevrigo who got made in 2011 making all the moves on the streets for lou and scoops

            yearh big lou got connections he did his sentence in a new york prison

    • The mafia

      He was always boss even when in the can he had guys on the outside

      Geogre is a headcase he walked out on sit downs with joey and Steve he needs to take a break but the guy has always been a crazy guy

      I hate this family bunch of misfits can’t earn joey and those guys sure ligambi and his top guys like stanio made money but the rest made nothing I mean the Merlin guys were constantly complaining and come on one of the guys got 11 years for collecting a 50dollar loan

      Respect for the chick though heavy respect fame from a time when the mob in Philly held any real power and respect

        • The mafia

          He is the last flashy boss

          He will get life the Feds want him badly only gotti they had a bigger hardon for joey Merlin is philly and florida number 1 target

          He is responsible for a lot of murders esp last 15 years even when he was in the can

        • JohnGrant213

          He really does love the media attention even though he knows and its been proven to be detrimental to those in the lifestyle. You would think after being in the can for that extent of time he would shun any and all media advances and stay as low key as possible.

          • bellomo boss

            Im flummoxed with his choices. Inability to adapt, learn, backwards evolution. People are supposed to get smarter, more adaptive, but some only regress. he’s headed back to jail, just a matter of time. Personally, I’d want to spend more time with that hot wife instead of bubba in the clink.

          • The mafia

            she has cheated on him a few times and joey has broads all over the place very lucky guy they throw themselves on the guy he dont even need to try they come to him

            joey whacked some guyfrm the can back in 2003 because he was banging his wife this assoiate it was one of the reasons for his death his name was johnny gongs

          • Dom Woods

            One of the main reasons gongs was whacked was because he was going round bragging he was shooter in the long john martorano hit , the same thing happened wen dutchie avicolli was killed he was allegedly sleeping with stevie mazzone’s wife , he was killed also

          • The mafia

            Duchie steve and joey whacked a Genovese guy dug the hole according to George antastsia. Main reason I thought was banging stevs wife but Steve was also banging his wife very crazy situation

            Yearh johnny gongs was apparently bragging about the long john hit but it could have been a number of reasons I might he was a wild, he was shaking down business and causing fights and he was trying to switch to the gambino family.

            I think the main reasons was the bragging of long john hit and banging joeys wife

            Apparently in front of a table full of merlino guys he grabbed joeys wifes arse and said “tell joey this is my now”

            Joey apparently when nuts

          • Dom Woods

            No avicolli was going with mazzones wife so Mazzone went with avicoli’s niece who was 19 , then he murdered him

          • The mafia

            avicolli went with mazzones niece so steve went with his wife as part of his revenge geogre antastia talks about it

          • Dom Woods

            Your wrong , avicolli was going with mazzone’s wife , Ralph natale talked about it wen u flipped , look it up

          • The mafia

            yes i agree with you when did i say that i disagree with you?

            in the geogre antastia last gangster book ralph natale tells the FBI in his 302 that avicolli was sleeping with a “relation” of steve mazzone

            then ralph said in revenge steve started sleeping with a relation of avicolli

            according to ralph a genovese associate dug the hole in which avicolli was buried in read the book. The associate did it in an attempt to switch familys.

            his body has never been found

            Steve mazzone shot him in the back of the head accoridng to ralph

            according to ralph he did not ok the murder and that joey and steve did the hit themselves and they said to ralph that duchie was a rat

            your getting yourself confused i am agreeing with you

          • Dom Woods

            Your not talking about genovese capo Lawrence ricci r u ? Because he was found in the trunk of his car

          • The mafia

            nothing to do with lawrence ricci that was back in 2005 he was whacked because he would not plead guilty affecting the longshoreman union

            poor grammar by me i mean to say that the guys who killed duchie were steve,joey and geogrie and that a genovese assoiate who wanted to transfer familys dug the hole which duchie was thrown into after being shot in the head

            that was how geogre antastia described it

          • Dom Woods

            They’re was another reason ricci was murdered , he was after taking out Ligambi and Mazzone so his friend Pete caprio could try and take over the Philly mob

          • JohnGrant213

            I had seen this mentioned a couple times but hadn’t really seen any more in depth info into it. Seems like Ricci had his hands in a whole lot of risky things.

          • SharlieCheen'sCrkPipe

            For him he is being low key ,,, like TM said the FBI will get him,, The FBI doesnt too well with other oraganized crime groups because they dont have the rats ,, the big mouths and the wanna be celebrities the Italains have always had,,, anyway ,, Merlino like Gotti make being a gangster look good ,, not to othrr gangsters mind u

      • The mafia

        thanks it is NOT my chart though i need to say that otherwise i can get in trouble for posting this with the guy who said it was his

        it is a good chart though very good

          • K1NG6

            Thank you! I appreciate all the kind words regarding the chart. It is not an easy task compiling a graphical chart like that regarding mob families. Finding pictures, doing research, and placing people in the right positions (especially considering the mob does not put out press releases regarding their family hierarchy!) is a difficult task. It is also hard to satisfy people who have their own opinions about who should be where or who is running things, etc.

            I can’t/won’t claim that my chart is 100% accurate. That is pretty much impossible unless you happen to be on the streets with those guys and know the inner workings and secrets of the family. However, I rely on FBI press releases, indictments, and the most reliable news reports to compile the chart. I also had an old chart that someone else made several years ago to start as a base point for my own chart.

            I know most people find that Borgesi reporting to Marty Angelina would be inaccurate. When I first created the chart over a year ago, I did not have a captain for that crew identified. The crew originally was Georgie’s (he was also the consigliere), and while he was away it was reported that Gaeton Lucibello was the capo of that crew and also the acting consigliere while Ligambi was running the show. I also had a very reliable source from another forum who informed me that Marty Angelina was now the capo of that crew, and he is very well respected in regards to Philly and his information is usually spot on – so that’s what I went with. It may be possible that Marty is not the captain, and that Gaeton may possibly be in that position. It’s been widely reported that Borgesi is merely a soldier for right now, but it may also be possible that he takes over the South Jersey crew eventually with Staino in prison until 2020, whether it be on an acting basis or officially. It would make sense with his brother over there, and I have heard that Georgie has interests in South Jersey. I guess time will tell! Anyway, sorry for the long rant, my point was just to thank you for posting my chart and letting it be seen and also a thanks for the kind words!

            Also, for you guys that want to view the full size, high resolution version of my chart at any time – it’s hosted on my website, and when I update it the newest version is always available at the same link.

          • The mafia

            its very good the chart and you have shown alot of research which makes it better with the pictures etc

            i though accardo would be on the list? i heard enzo narducii might be connected and joey has his florida crew but i dont think there is any crew leader out there

            i dont think geogre will get south jeresy he is in there bad books i think the longer he keeps up his personality i think the more they will get fed up and will keep him in the outside not making the big money. Anthony b is hardly much use just a leg breaker if that

            i think philly ligambi has big weight in south
            jeresy the has been seen around alot with steve m and look who philly ligambis brother is joe must put in good word. Scarfo guys could move in

            i hear joey pung is going independent with 5 or 6 guys the whip might be shelved or is working with joey pung

            tory is said to be active though he is in florida last i checked could be in philly

      • SharlieCheen'sCrkPipe

        Hope ur right ,, been pretty sleepy in the underworld ,, ???? I am a bit flummoxed that these guys cant just get along and make a stronger family,, but I guess they are all fighting for the same table scraps

    • Macs BW

      Why are they unable to get back into atlantic city?, surely there alot of money making opportunities there. If i was in there position id be muscling into the supplies business there.

      • bellomo boss

        I doubt they want to upset the Genovese family, who had really run Atlantic City since Bruno was murdered. That’s really why he died, they wanted AC. I don’t know who their guy is now, but philly wouldn’t dare bite that hand.

        • The mafia

          Genovese family not in ac not since scarecrow I know of a colambo associate,lucheses and some philly guys but no Genovese they pulled out after the unions went

          • The mafia

            There is shy going on and gambling with mikey lance and nicdemeo in Philly mob running a major gambling operation out of borgats multi million plus running shake downs

            Jack buscemi testified he kicked up between 5-12 thousand a month to mousie then to luceblio and mikey lance and nicdemo made big money

          • The mafia

            alot of guys go down there a friend said he saw phil ligambi and steve mazzone go right up into the VIP lounge in ac they have defo made money there and prob still are esp with the scarfo guys getting out would not be surprised if they made moves into ac

      • The mafia

        There is guys out there in 2008 mikey lance and nicdemeo were arrested for running a multi million gambling operation out of the borgata in ac

        Reason it fell ? There is not enough italiens and after scarfo jr switched over to the lucheses.

        There is philly guys there though assoiates running shy and various scams nothing major things

        The unions are gone and the casinos impossible and the philly guys are constantly killing each other and there is not enough guys to put major force into ac

        Scarfo had a crew right up to his arrest back in 2010 don’t know what happened to it afterwards

        There is guys there but not like before but there is guys there philly mob has huge amounts of associate

      • K1NG6

        There are other charts for all of the New York families, but they are NOT made by the same person. A chart-maker named Mukremin Gul created all of the family charts for NY (and several smaller families) a few years back. The Philly chart was done by me, and is the only chart I have created so far. I may do more in the future, but for right now I just update Philly when new information becomes available.

  2. anonymous

    Truth be said both have outlived there welcome in the familyand should both be whacked one being a drunk and the other a complete socialpath are a liability to the family even though there stand up guys won.t be long before they upset the apple cart. PHILLY

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