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  1. JohnGrant213

    One of the best mafia books I have read. Heck of a read and the insight and information is definitely unsurpassed. We hear about the mafia being back on the rise esp in New York and that definitely seems to be the case and I think this new edition is another sign that the mob in New York is at least somewhat regaining some of its swagger.

    • Bigeasy91

      i cant wait to get my hands on the new edition for Christmas, after that fat rat massino spilled his guts over 10 yrs ago you would never have thought the mob would be gaining strength, I have heard bellomo(Genovese) cali(Gambino) and crea (lucchese) who are the other 2 leaders ?

      • bellomo boss

        Mancuso is boss of bonnano’s. (although it’s not a strong leadership, he is official boss) first official since Massino. Colombo is still Persico. He’s boss until he dies. Most of their leadership is in prison, most agree they are the weakest. Although some say they are stronger than Bonanno’s. both are small potatoes compared to the three you mentioned. Especially Genovese and Gambino.

        • Bigeasy91

          i aknow mancuso and persico are boss in name but I was wanting to know who are running the families ? and is it 100% certain that bellomo is leader of Genovese ? I read that cefalu stepped down for cali and crea is doing a good job staying under the radar their is no doubt hes the leader for lucchese.

          • bellomo boss

            Bellomo is widely considered boss. So is Cali and crea. In terms of running things. Colombos man on the street is Thomas Farese. bonanno’s recently named joe cammorano as street boss. Although, he was busted at his celebration party, so who knows.

          • The mafia

            joe was not busted at the chritmas party no one was “busted” a few guys violated there parole. Mancuso is boss in name he got moved to a prison in texas recently now we will see how able he is to run a family from prison. Joe is the boss on the streets he is the power a real gangster like his father

            Farase main man not a chance the man is in his mid 70s now he is not the boss not saying he is fully retired but he is not the main guy he is sem retired these days billy russo is one to watch andys kid capo and young never done time either he will get busted eventually

          • bellomo boss

            Not busted in that he was arrested/jailed. Busted in that he gets nailed breaking parole, meeting with other members at his own celebration party. Dumb move for someone just named street boss. The idea is for the Feds not to know who is in charge. That is what I meant by busted. Busted being stupid.

            You may be right about Colombos, I read Farese was in charge on final decisions. But they might not be true. I do know that their entire leadership is jailed or about to be. Colombos are only family not stabilizing in my opinion. Once again, my opinion.

          • The mafia

            he dident even get arrested joe he Is not on parole dident obiuously think feds would find out about the meeting feds were following vinny asaros nephew he was one of driver
            colombos doing fine they had the last big rat that capo who flipped Anthony russo would claim to be a real gangster flipped as soon as he was looking at a bit of time andy was fuming when that Colombo associate got stabbed up by the gambinos he felt the colombos should have got revenge. Andys kid a big player a lot of big players getting out of prison next year should be interesting to see what happens with that family

          • JohnGrant213

            There have def been rumors of Cefalu’s retirement but so far the feds and other still believe he is the boss of the family although Cali def is close to the big chair. From all accounts Bellomo is the current boss of the Genovese family. As BB mentioned Joseph Cammarano Jr is the new street boss for the Bonanno family but it still seems like they are somewhat of a mess and the exact hierarchy is well sketchy at best.

          • Bigeasy91

            it cant be as bad as the colombos, if reports are correct their main man farnese is runnin things from south florida lol

          • bellomo boss

            Who knows for sure. I do know that Persico almost always has a blood relative running things. It’s almost always a cousin of some kind . and if I’m not mistaken for Farese is somehow a relative

  2. bellomo boss

    I think genovese, gambino, and Luchese are back in a big way. Just more underground, like it was meant to be. Bellomo, crea, and cali, have been free for some time.

    • OmarComin'

      You probably celebrated when 9/11 happened because it meant the Feds would shift their resources towards terrorism.

      You probably rant at your orthodontist black neighbor and dentist Muslim neighbor for “destroying this neighborhood, this used to be a good, Eyetalian neighborhood.” while wearing a Free John Gotti t-shirt with month-old calzone stains on it.

      • bellomo boss

        Not sure what you are implying here, as English is clearly second language. No one here mentioned politics, or hate for any group, race, religion. Quit creating rascim where there is clearly none. And for the record, I spilled spaghetti on my free john gotta pajamas, not shirt.

        • eddiea

          For some reason he thinks Mafia members didn’t associate/do business w/other races. Well i for one no that’s not true. Anyway you and @JohnGrant213 are one of the reasons i like this site, you are respectful when i misstate/ask a question and when someone says something stupid. THANK YOU! !!!!

          • JohnGrant213

            Agree completely. Its a subject we all seem to enjoy and its one where information is sometimes limited allowing for discussions to be very interesting and sure we will all have varying opinions at times but that just makes it even more interesting. Happy Holidays bellomo!

          • JohnGrant213

            It is great when conversations can be informative and civil. A great group of guys here for most part posting in the comment section and I learn as much from you guys as I ever supply for sure. Always willing to toss in my two cents and help when possible eddiea, you have a great Christmas holiday!

          • VanPastorMan

            Luciano and those of his generation were more Americanized and so this meant they didn’t see the need to only work with Italians. I once heard a story where Vito Genovese had said something against Meyer Lansky because he was Jewish. Frank Costello told him,”shut up Vito, you’re an immigrant too”.

      • Evangelo

        They should of been on terrorism along time before 9/11 but they were to busy bothering people like John Gotti when they should of been more aware about the radical Muslims whom wanted to cause harm to the west and especially the USA. You know if we elected someone tough like Putin there wouldn’t be a Middle East? We would whipe the Middle East off the map and claim it as USA if Putin was our leader or if we had someone tough like that.

        • JohnGrant213

          Your right the terrorism factor was a real threat before 9/11 and should of had more resources devoted to it way before that and if so may have been able to avoid that tragedy.

          • Evangelo

            Yea I know I was just telling this Omar or whatever his name that because he was making fun of a guy on here because he’s into mob news, and was being a little racist to him cause he’s italian or has an italian name on here. And he was pretty much being supportive of the radical muslims on 9/11 pretty much saying he didn’t like that law enforcement switched over to terrorism when it should of been switched over to terrorism after the famous Mafia commission trial i don’t care what anybody says the italian cosa nostra haven’t had the same power or the wealth like that ever since those bosses all got 100 years. They the FBI had reports about a cheque cashing place in new jersey that should of been surveillance on throughout the late 1980’s and throughout the 1990’s that had the muslims there planning and plotting 9/11 they said if they would of dedicated %25 of the agents against the Gambino crime family they would of prevented the 9/11 attack just shows how important the mafia was though for the government to stop.

          • OmarComin'

            You do know the Italian mob profited from the 9/11 attacks and the debris cleanup, right?

            And the whole reason the towers came down so easily in the first place is because of the shitty job mob connected companies did building the f*****g things after winning the contracts illegally in the first place.

            So enough of the forever bothering Italians nonsense.

          • IntheknowD

            Yah it probably was shitty craftsmanship. I’m sure if more able competent workers constructed those skyscrapers that a full size jet hitting them at full speed would have caused minimal damage or possibly richotched off the side of building.

            Dude, that had to me the most idiotic blatantly biased ignorant accusation you made.

          • OmarComin'

            The skyscrapers probably wouldn’t have collapsed within the hour if it wasn’t for corners being cut everywhere during their construction.

            No rebuttal about the mob families profiteering from the debri removal and cleanup in the immediate aftermath?

          • IntheknowD

            How does profiting from debris removal after the fact play into them collapsing?

            Again another baseless claim “probably wouldn’t have collapsed within the hour if it wasn’t for corners being cut everywhere”. Do you have anything to substantiate this claim. By the off chance you do, you really think corners aren’t cut in basically all business to maximize profit??

          • OmarComin'

            IDK you seem to one of the people moralizing them and saying the feds should leave them to their own devices and let them do whatever they want?!!

            And unsubstantiated? Really?

            Educate yourself.

          • IntheknowD

            I’m not moralizing them in any way. I was just stating you are throwing out accusations with zero fact. I know that the vast majority of them are absolute narcissists who lack a moral compass.

          • OmarComin'


            TOWERS FELL AND MOB SCHEMES BEGAN.
            How organized crime civvied up Ground Zero work”: NYDailyNews article about how the mob began plans to profit from 9/11 hours after the first collision.

            Colombo Capo, Thomas Petrizzo, shook down debris haulers in the aftermath of the attacks.

            Need I go on?

            Five Families is a good book you know.

          • IntheknowD

            Yeah I know they profited after that’s been well documented and many have been convicted. I was referring to your claims that any ties they had to organized labor in past while Towers were constructed playing a part in their collapse.

          • IntheknowD

            Trust me I’m sure many other shady businesses and politicians also profited off of the clean up of WTC site. Nothing new, it’s what opportunistic narcissist s do. They seize on any opportunity that profits them.

            I just want to see some facts behind your claim that them being involved on the construction played any part in the collapse.

          • OmarComin'

            It’s well documented in books, articles and documentaries.

            “,in 1989 he (Louis Di Bono) was involved in a lucrative contract to install fireproof
            foam in the walls of the World Trade Center Twin Towers.He secured the
            contract through bribery. He pocketed millions from the funds for the
            project by cutting corners; in some cases entire floors of the Twin
            Towers had no fireproofing foam applied to the steel infrastructure.”

          • OmarComin'

            And please save us with this nonsense comparing drug dealing, murdering, lazy sociopaths who have never worked an honest day in their lives to (unnamed) businessmen and politicians.

          • IntheknowD

            So you bring a mobster profiting his legitimate business through bribery yet they ve never worked an honest day in their lives??? Can you make any statements without contradicting other statements you ve made?

          • IntheknowD

            Legitimate being a licensed insured tax paying company.

            Any Organized Crime member who owns a business are probably only businesses out there who use bribery of any means be it cash, wine and dining, sports tickets, use of private jets, vacations, etc…..

          • IntheknowD

            Judging by other forums you comment on, you re either a dipshit kid with a lot to learn. Or worse a grown man still obsessed with WWE or whatever wrestling called these days.

            So would could logically come to one of two other conclusions as well. Middle aged man living in parents basement. Or someone whose house has a trailer hitch and sits in a certain type of park.

          • OmarComin'

            Says the mafia fanboy slob defending a bunch of lazy, deplorable subhumans who’ve never worked a day in their lives and are a burden on the entire country.

            I have a masters degree and I’m currently doing a postgraduate in accounting BTW.

            I probably earn more in a month than you do in a year.

          • Evangelo

            Who cares if they profited from it thats what they do they’re an organized crime family they make money illegal and now a days a lot legally. That is way different then some stupid muslims who want to kill themselves because they think they’re doing such a good deed for their fake god by killing themselves and other westerners whom they believe are christians or jews. Get off of here with this terrorism and mob stuff the mob is about money not killing themselves when they kill people its an order and its usually over money unless its a respect thing. Please talk about the wiseguys on here not the radical muslims they don’t need any glorification, they sure are not gangsters.

          • Evangelo

            Its not delusional its speaking the truth. You’re trying to state that the twin towers fell apart so easily because the mob did a shitty job and you said the mob profited on the towers. The mob is all about money i don’t know what you think its about if you don’t think its about money. And yes the mob controlled construction in new york city so they would of controlled the product that was used to make the twin towers in no way did they built it those guys couldn’t do something like that. You brought terrorism into the conversation by stating that the mob was so happy that the FBI moved from organized crime to terrorism when they should of been on terrorism along time ago Khalid Sheik Mohammad a guy who helped planned the 9/11 attacks said if George Bush didn’t come after us we would of attacked more. They attacked our embassies not on US soil and we did nothing about it they thought we weren’t going to do nothing about the 9/11 attacks and they planned the 9/11 attacks in the 90’s when the FBI was bringing down guys like John Gotti, Vincent Gigante etc. George Bush acted like a cowboy and brought it to them when we went there, if we had a really tough leader we would of claimed/annex Iraq and Afghanistan and made it USA.

          • Evangelo

            No but they should of had way fewer FBI agents working against organized crime and focused on terrorism groups. I wasn’t saying stop focusing on organized crime just when people from another country are trying to blow your country up it should be more of a priority then a group trying to scheme to make money. There in no way terrorist though they commit murders on other wiseguys or people who get involved with them they don’t just randomly light people up in broad day light like the radical muslims do with suicide bombings.

          • OmarComin'

            You’re talking out of your ass again.

            I can list at least a dozen verified instances where mobsters have murdered innocent people.

            Do you want me to do it again?

            And for the sake of argument, how do you know resources that should have been going towards fighting terrorisms were going towards fighting the mafia?

            And why do you think the mafia should be immune from prosecution or federal attention, fanboy?

            Do you know how much the mafia steal from the average taxpayer on a yearly basis?

          • bellomo boss

            Your list are meaningless. Once again if we’re focusing on the mafia in this country, which the majority of our conversations are, there is no instance or list you can provide which the body count would compare even remotely to what terrorist have done in this country . I don’t have to go any further than 911 as I stated previously, this death toll alone would exceed any kind of list that you could provide . Do you even bother to read people’s responses? if you did you might see that no one ever suggested they should not be prosecuted or they should not be investigated . Furthermore no one ever claimed that they are not a burden on the taxpayer. But yet again if you want to talk about the cost of the mafia versus the cost of the war on terror, it’s not even a conversation. we’re talking billions and trillions of dollars to fight the war on terror . I still can’t wrap my head around why you would want to come to a site where people clearly enjoy discussing the mafia and rant and rave about how terrorism is nearly equivalent to the mafia . or let me rephrase that, not that you’re implying there are equivalent, or so you say. but rather hear we are still discussing how the mafia compares to terrorism. Why are we still making these comparisons ? Let me make this as simple as I possibly can for you . No one on this site is saying the mafia should be void of prosecution investigation or attention from law-enforcement . No one is saying the mafia is a good rightists or law abiding group of people . Hell in several instances were not even implying there all that intelligent. We simply enjoy discussing them because it something that fascinates us, it’s a part of American history. And for the record you brought terrorism into the conversation from the very beginning, go back and read our post. you brought them up. And one final time and then I will quit responding to your ignorance, when discussing domestic terrorism and the American mafia,there is absolutely no comparison as to who has caused more innocent lives to be lost . There is absolutely no comparison as to which is a greater threat to our security and nation . Even when the mafia was at the peak, it did not cause as much bloodshed. We never had to worry about the mafia getting their hands on nuclear weapons . We never had to worry about the mafia flying planes into buildings. Does this mean that they’re good guys of course not don’t be ridiculous . But to compare them to any sort of a domestic terrorist truly shows your lack of education and keenly developed a sense of moral bankruptcy.

          • OmarComin'

            I’m saying the two things are not mutually exclusive. I am saying it is completely moronic to blame 9/11 on the FBI spending too much time going after mobsters – which you and other fanboys seem to be implying.

          • bellomo boss

            Dude you are reaching so hard. there was never a single comment here that said 911 would have been prevented had the attention been on terrorist instead of the mafia. you were making assumptions that are purely false and then going on rants just to hear yourself speak. it’s funny how you invented things that we said and then argued with things that were never actually said . I think it’s safe to say you need an education and a life. Quit mentioning the mutually exclusive claim no one here ever said that they needed to be. what people did say is it one is clearly more of a threat than the other at the current time

          • OmarComin'

            You don’t know what mutually exclusive is.

            The implication from a couple of posters here has been that terrorism in America would have been presented if the FBI hadn’t have gone after Gigante and Gotti so hard!

            Which any educated person knows is completely absurd.

          • bellomo boss

            I do know what it is. It means because you investigate one, the other can still be investigated too. Comprehension is not issue. The issue is you are making assumptions, reading indirect messages that were never implied. The message was never leave mafia alone. It was terrorist pose greater threat, thus resources should be reallocated. Dude, I’m done. You have proven wrong countless times. Get a life, go troll another forum. You are trying so hard to sound intelligent, but ignorance overshadows your every statement

          • OmarComin'

            I have read over all your comments; obvious fanboy.

            You can take an interest in organized crime and acknowledge that mobsters are scum of the earth.

          • bellomo boss

            Right. When you encounter someone who has much higher degree of education and intelligence, you resort to fanboy. Truth hurts. You came here to start arguments with people based upon your own incorrect assumptions. Go back to posting memes on social media. I’m sure it’s the source of your “knowledge”. That and Wikipedia. Go to school Omar.

          • bellomo boss

            Dear god, you are literally retarded. No one excused anything. We simply said it’s not the threat terror is. It’s clear you are a kid, likely a high school dropout still at home with mommy. Good luck in life Omar, good news, we will always need burger flippers too.

          • IntheknowD

            I would guess the amount a minuscule percent of the amount pissed away in Washington through Cronyism and taking care of special interests backing elected officials

          • bellomo boss

            It’s a fact that the mafia made money on almost all major construction in years past. Even today they still own a share, although much smaller share. I also have no doubt they continue to profit from sanitation, clean up, etc. these points are accurate. Now trying to compare the mafia, who only kill other members. (For the most part, always exceptions) to terrorist who kill thousands of innocent people. Not even remotely close to a valid argument, it’s down right ridiculous.
            No one here ever said “poor Italian” anything. Quite the contrary. we simply enjoy engaging in mafia conversations, speculation. Yes the mafia breaks the law, yes they kill. But a terrorist, or supporter of terrorist is a far greater threat to our country than the mafia today.

          • OmarComin'

            I didn’t compare them to terrorists. I compared them to domestic terrorists, which is true.

            And I never said terrorism was a greater threat than the mafia. I’m saying comparing one to the other for any reason whatsoever is completely absurd and is something only the most deluded fanboys preach with no basis in fact whatsoever.

            They are not mutually exclusive. Both can be targeted.

            And if you want to continue to try and justify the mafia, I can rebut all day long.

            George Aronwald, prosecutor, murdered by the mafia; prosecutor, targeted for murder by Vincent Basciano; mob plots on a sitting President (Kennedy’s) life; peddlers of child pornography (De Meo, DiBernardo); peddlers of child prostitution (Horseface Ianniello); profiteering from domestic tragedies; the myth that innocents have never been targeted by the mob – cop murdered by Genovese mobsters in 80’s, Everett Hatcher, Nicky Guido, Mary Bari, several innocents during the Colombo war in the 90’s.

            Domestic terrorism plain and simple.

            Want me to go on?

            Want to continue justifying peddlers of kiddie p**n?

            I get that you like discussing the mob. I do too. But it sickens me that people (fanboys) continue to defend them.

          • bellomo boss

            You couldn’t go on long enough to ever compare to terrorist list. If you are not comparing, then why all the list and justifications. Even at a domestic level, it’s not comparable. 9/11 alone surpasses anything the mafia has ever done. End of discussion. Thus, the attention is rightly focused on radical terrorist hell bent in killing masses for Allah.

            Simple solution, if you hate our conversations so much, don’t come here. Go to a pro terror site

          • OmarComin'

            I’m not the one bringing terrorists into the discussion, saying that the FBI should leave the mafia alone because of terrorism. It’s asinine.

          • bellomo boss

            Which is why no one said that. Submit quote from forum or it’s fake. I do however believe the resources are better used to fight terrorist. As the mafia is a much smaller threat. I’m not saying let them do whatever, but we don’t need 50 task forces anymore. If you don’t see that, you need to educate yourself on terrosim.

          • Michael Robinson

            Kid you.are.clueless it would be best if you only talked about things you.may.know about because.mob history is definitely not your Forte.

          • OmarComin'

            I know a good bit.

            I’m not a fan of mobsters like a lot of you guys, but I do find organized crime interesting as a topic – with a sense of detachment and pragmatism.

      • Zz

        Yawn!

        The only thing racist was having 90% of the FBI organized crime investigators targeting one community when you had Cubans, blacks, and motorcycle gangs involved in the same kinds of stuff.

        Also, with the rise of terror, drug cartels, and other street gangs there is much more need to confront other groups, rather than just one group. As for racism, most terror is motivated by hate for others, for religions and cultures, the same is true for BLM and their attack on whites in Milwaukee. You’re barking up the wrong tree with this “Italians are racist” nonsense when anyone looking around today can see where the real racism is coming from.

        • OmarComin'

          As a neutral, when it comes to people who have grievances with being unfairly targeted by federal agencies the Italians are a long, long, long, long way behind the blacks.

          It’s utter bullshit that Italians have been the only focus of the FBI too. They targeted the Irish mob and Tongs equitably.

          What, you expect them to devote equal resources to Irish and Russian street gangs when the Italians have traditionally dwarfed them in numbers?

          For God’s sake Joe Colombo, a leader of an organized crime family, was leader of an Italian civil rights group.

          At what point, do people start looking in the mirror?

        • OmarComin'

          Never said Italians are racist either.

          But let’s face it. There is an agenda from certain people that Italian-Americans should be let off the hook and more focus should be turned on Mexicans and blacks for reasons that are easily decipherable to, well, anybody.

    • Michael Robinson

      It will never.be as good as it was the late 60s early 70s even into the 80s were some of the best times being around those type of guys they seemed larger.than life if you were a street kid hanging around the spots back then. The days of bath ave 86th street ave x 18th ave are long gone i think it was big pauls funeral down by ave u was the begining of the end for what was known as the mob.the real wise guys of the mob.

  3. Boss

    The New York Mafia Families are not so strong how many people think.

    They are so weak today as never before.

    Also only a new york think, nothing much more than this. outside the usa nothing, and also nothing in the rest of the country only a little thing in the east coast area.

    In this time other mafia organisation much more stronger.

    • Anthony Morena

      Eh i have to disagree, the bosses Cali, Crea, Bellimo and you can even throw in Joe C from the Bonanos have managed to stay out of prison for almost 10+ yrs now, stabalizing the hiearchy which can really stabalize the family. Each family has about over 100-200 made guys maybe even more who really knows. Plus the Outfit with Vena at the top now some say seems to be picking it back up along with New England who hierachy is mostly due to get out or prison soon and Matty G doing a great job over there im hearing & who could forget about Philly for the first time since Scarfo all the top players are on the streets (for now) besides Joey’s troubles seem to be on the up. With anti terror only getting worse the Nypd and the Fbi have to put resources else where..yeah people will always be getting pinched thats part of the game but bosses being put away on Rico cases days are long gone, the top guys have learned had to adapt..so yeah give it another ten yrs and these families might be as strong as ever.

    • bellomo boss

      I disagree as well. As stated, the current bosses are old school, smart, leaders. Look no further than how hard it still is to say for sure whose in charge. There are plenty that still think Cefula, Amuso, are still bosses. In the age of information, these guys have stayed low profile. This speaks to their intelligence,and desire to get back to old school mafia. I do agree outside NYC, most families are over. Chicago, Philadelphia, are still legit threats. Are any of them as powerful as the 50-70’s? No. but terrorism has been a blessing for the mafia. Look at Canada, it’s a blood bath. People don’t go war over small potatoes. This is big business

    • Vladimir Isokov

      I disagree.
      The families each have at least 100 made men, the Gambino and Genovese families have around 200 and 300 made men respectively. But I have also heard another source saying that there are 1200 made men in NY alone.
      Plus, not to mention there are several thousand associates, in NY alone. Philly mob has the same # of made guys on the street as they did during the late Scarfo era, and Chicago is corrupt to it’s core, and there have only been a few major law enforcement operations there, the last one taking place around 8-9 years ago.
      Florida has been pretty much taken over by the NY families. Plus Detroit has been able to remain intact through marriages, and has had very few informants.
      Plus the New England Family has been reported to be pretty strong in a long time.
      Not to mention the other organized crime syndicates, such as the Camorra and the ‘Ndrangheta and the Sicilian Mafia moving to the US, forming groups here and joining the ranks of the American LCN.

  4. Savin Rock AL

    The New England family A.K.A. Patriarch is alive and well..The recent arrests are old and Non Factors or players …i agree with Anthony M….Matty G is taking care of business in Federal Hill R.I. And in Boston’s North End Cheeseman and his relatives has young blood infused into the family

    • JohnGrant213

      New England def seems to be stabilizing and they def seem like they could be in for a solid resurgence if the new hierarchy can stay out of the can for a substantial amount of time. From all indications the Cheeseman is a competent guy at the top.

  5. Savin Rock AL

    As far as South Philly goes it’s a positive advantage that you have multiple factions involved in separate enterprises….If Joey M….crew Johnny Chang,..Mikey Lance Gayton go down that won’t effect Joey Pung and his crew…and Philip Narducci and Windows N…won’t be effected in his crew and George Borgesi also…..So Philly mob will survive absolutely because 4 Factions doing different types of business separately…..so one faction goes 3 more crews left with own Capos not like Nicky Scarfo when 95% went away at o ce

  6. Michael Robinson

    This is a pretty cool.conversation guy im not a big reader in fack im 52 and have never read a book cover to.cover. i was told i had a learning disorder back in the late 70s when i dropped out of the 8th grade and never returned because of what now we know as adhd. But i did grow up in Bensonhurst brooklyn back when the gambino family was was very big and well known to us kids back then. These guys were larger than life to us as we would run into some of them while hanging around the. Neighborhood at wedding and clubs things like that. Once john went to jail its was like the begining of the end of the real tough guys who would strike fear in guys just with their.presence and reputations of what they habe done or what was believed they had done. Sometimes its hard to decipher between fact and fiction when it comes to some of those fascinating stories told by some of the folks that were there and somemof those the were not. Anyway im going to.read on.and hope to see more fact than fiction.

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