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  1. JohnGrant213

    And the beat goes on … it is getting hard to even remotely keep track of which side is hitting the other as this war continues to drag on. Would seem like with things still in limbo the Sollecito/Rizzuto faction still has some traction and are not yet ready to fold.

      • The mafia

        already surpassed it a long time ago the Colombo war there was 12 murders (including three murders on innocent civilians who were killed in mistake) in 3 years

        I don’t really know much about Montreal but remember reading a few years ago an article saying 21 murders now it is probably double that they are crazy

          • bellomo boss

            Can you even imagine this in states? Man it would be a massive story. I guess Canada doesn’t have a rico law.

          • JohnGrant213

            Right? Feds would be going crazy with that many hits and that kind of war today down here.

          • Tommy

            They are staying the charges not dropping them so it’s still possible for the crown to prosecute but it will likely mean at the very least they’ll be released from custody. Something is fishy with how the rcmp decoded blackberry messenger, this could also have an impact on Reynald Desjardin if he uses this as a precedent for an appeal

          • Cedz

            i think its cause the RCMP does not want to divulge to much on there Technics or technology,. Raynald cant appeal cause he accepted a plea bargain. he only has about 6 years to serve…

          • Tommy

            He absolutely can appeal his sentence. He accepted the plea for conspiracy but if the foundation of the crowns case against him was the BBM messages (which it was), then he can for sure appeal his sentence now. Not to mention, the rcmp was actively monitoring their messages while plotting against montagna… why did they not intervene? Also the fact that them having cracked RIMs security certainly did not do any favours for that struggling Canadian company.

          • Ron

            Fake communication towers put at strategic area of traveled or criminal hang outs. It’s not always legit or court ordered. And just cause u erase shit on your phone and account doesn’t mean it doesn’t leave a trail. Or still on servers. Truth is they just talk to much and get careless in their conversations.

          • Cedz

            We have Gansterism similar to Rico. you can be charged with being part of a criminal organisation. right now Solecito and Rizzuto are being charged with Gangsterism.

  2. Tommy

    It’s crazy how little is known even on the street as to who is against who

    This guy was connected to the devito clan ya but that doesn’t even necessarily mean it was a rizzuto move to kill him. It’s way less black and white than most mob wars historically. People aren’t acknowledging the strong likelihood that the HA are playing a role, as they are now rebuilding in Quebec and have a massive presence in Ontario, I forget how many chapters but I think it’s second only to California. Also can’t forget the d’amicos as they play a role. It’s not as simple as calabrese vs Sicilians, which is the most commonly accepted theory. There are Sicilian guys aligned with the rizzutos who are walking the streets of Toronto just fine right now, and in a town heavily dominated by ‘Ndrangheta I don’t think they’d be safe if it was as simple as calabrese vs Sicilians.

      • Tommy

        Do you live in Ontario?or Quebec? Or Canada? If not you’re probably not that familiar with the landscape here. HA hold huge weight. They sat on the consortium with the Italians and the Irish and street gangs and representatives of the cartels. They have the muscle to be behind this, especially if they’re aligned with street gangs.

        • Cedz

          I live in montreat the bikers are huge they have supplanted the MOb for the first time. I do not believe they he anything to do with this. it”s between Italian’s. things that started I the 70

          • Franco

            Have you ever seen many bikers? I live in the GTA and I’ve never seen ANY. However I’ve seen and met many many mobsters and associates.In my opinion the bikers don’t have the money, power or connections to completely take on the Italians. They might be used as muscle in a war by other Italians, but they wouldn’t usually do it themselves. The bikers, cartels ,and Irish are kept around because they have use to the Italians and they let them. The street gangs will always be there but we all know they are too dumb and dissoragnized.

          • Tommy

            You’re hugely underestimating the angels. The reason you haven’t seen any is because it’s a gangsterism charge to even fly their colours. No cuts. It’s an international organization that generates HUGE sums of money and uses an almost endless amount of puppet clubs to do their dirty work.

          • Cedz

            right now in Quebec I can’t speak for Ontario. the Mob is disorganize and fractional zed by 10 years of war. the bikers are all out and have supplanted the mob.ha have chapters in south amEric u don this kind they deal directly with cartels…

          • Franco

            And how do they bring it in? I doubt they have good access to the ports of Montreal. That is the only way to get in huge amounts of coke at a time.

          • Cedz

            of course not. most of the coke that’s getting into the states is passing by tractor trailer through mexico. the above mentioned article operation clemenza the mob was using trucks from Texas and cAli. and historically it’s the irish not italians that run mtl ports. they work together including bikers and Haitins

          • Franco

            That’s a fair enough explanation. I just doubt the diversity of the balance of power In Montreal. Sure the mafia has been in limbo due to the war and the HA has recovered a bit but I would not say that they have more control of Montreal than the Italians. It was always the Italians at the top with importation, hells Angels with distribution, and street gangs on the street level selling. The Irish and cartels had little deals and business here and there in Montreal, nothing too crazy.

          • Cedz

            I agree with that accesment however over the last the heads of the sicilian aND calabrese have been busted all the bikers are out. it’s been widely reported in mtl that the bikers have over taken the mob

          • Cedz

            are you from Montreal? cause when it Comes to the mob and bikers it’s only the French media that does a good job of reporting it

          • Cedz

            OK tomorrow I’ll send you some reading materiAL about the bikers over taking the mob in qc. it’s in french have to.goggle translate. I can’t today Im on my phone

          • Tommy

            Mihale leventis little brother shot and killed in Toronto a couple weeks ago.. then a shooting in Woodbridge, targeted, 28 year old girlfriend is dead and the target? Media won’t identify him. Targeted+ pro shooting+Woodbridge… pretty easy equation.. then Nicola di Marco gets clipped. Has to be some connections.

          • Cedz

            i no Mihale everybody in Montreal calls him Rookie, i no his brother Tasso as well. im not following why would this be related guy was killed in January and theres a mob murder in Montreal months lates where is the connection….

          • Tommy

            I’m not sure if there is a connection, just speculating. Anasatasio leventis get murdered in Toronto after apparently having pissed off the commissos, arguably the strongest ‘ndrangheta clan in the gta (if not the world)… who I’m sure has had some hand in what’s going on in Montreal.

          • Cedz

            everybody calls Anastasio (Tasso) i no him well. he and his brother are top trafficker mostly tied to IRISH mob. he is not involved in whats goind on in the mob

          • Tommy

            I know they are tied to the west end gang but also to the angels.. I’m just pointing out that Anastasio was clipped in Toronto and word is he did something to piss off the commissos.. and then gets killed while on their turf. I think there’s a connection in some way between the latest bunch of murders.

          • Cedz

            well one thing is for sure all these high level guys no each other and have common business interest

          • Franco

            The hells Angels and other gangs aren’t leaders. The Montreal mafia needs to come to an agreement and end the conflict. The Italians have been around forever. They have money, connections, charisma, things that the other groups don’t have as much of. I can never see the a Italians working under another group, it will never happen,, and there’s alot of italians. If anything, incase the rizzutos don’t recover, Toronto groups will step in, for certain.

          • Cedz

            there’s been some high level talks over the last few weeks on ending the war. again reported by lapresse and journal DE Montreal. they always have article’s about the.mob and it’s I depth

          • Franco

            I’ve seen those. Perhaps there are just some loose ends and isolated beefs that need to be taken care of.

          • Franco

            There are so many different factions, peace could have been made by one and not with another. Or sometimes some people need to be killed in order for long term peace to be made.

          • Cedz

            it’s actually been reported slot in the media by law enforcement that ha has in fact surpassed the mob in Quebec . there’s been reports of clan leaders paying up to ha for drug territory. I just dont agree there a driving force in the on going mob war1

          • Franco

            That’s highly unlikely to me. Most of the coke that is in Canada is bought in from South America by ‘ndrangheta, and sold to hells Angels and other groups. Maybe some clans might be getting the short end of the stick, but there is definitely one clan above the HA.

          • Tommy

            I disagree. I would be very,very surprised to find out HA doesn’t have some role in all of this. Some high ranking HA have been targeted as of late, and scoppa getting shot, who is known to have had a beef with HA over turf.. adds up to me

          • Cedz

            not all these MOb killings have to be related scoppa who I have personally has alot of enymies Irish bikers blacks other Italians he was Mexico for a while. I don’t think the bikers are a driving force in the conflict.perhaps they have teamed up with a clan

    • Cedz

      before rizzuto died in 2013 it was pretty clear. montagna desjarding devito along with backing from .Ontario tried to take power. since izzuto death I agree its very fragmented. I heard this might be linked to the attempted murder of scoops a few weeks ago

      • Tommy

        The calabrians in the gta are all part of the same organization but the ndrangheta is very clannish, and don’t forget that some members had close personal and business ties with the rizzutos, which would lead me to think it couldn’t be a conglomerate of ndrangheta groups but more so one or two clans helping pick the rizzutos apart

        • Cedz

          exactly. dont forget when rizzuto got out of prison In Colorado the first place he went was Toronto before montreal. the beef is worth Montreal and hamilton ndrangetha.

          • Tommy

            Well he was deported and flown to Pearson airport rather than Trudeau, so that’s part of the reason why he was in Toronto. Also, even he wasn’t entirely sure what the dynamic was and who was a friend or an enemy, so he temporarily stayed out of Montreal. The whole idea of a Hamilton ‘ndrangheta is hugely overrated, you’ve gotta remember there is a very, very small mafia presence in Hamilton. On top of that, rizzuto and the musitanos were aligned, it was Vito that backed them on clipping papalia.

    • Danny

      without knowing any specifics, i would be suprised if calabrese and sicilians are unable to settle differences amicably. at least in italy some are closely connected (marriage etc).

  3. eddiea

    With these guys knowing they’re on someones “Hit List” why don’t they have Bodyguards? Especially since most are being Hit where not too many ppl are around. Also,can we assume that The RCMP knows these Hits are coming,since apparently their Technology/Info allows for Real Time Data Collection. Oh well at leadt it seems Civilians aren’t being killed,in Hits,unlike US Mob Wars

    • Tommy

      Some guys were, like agostino contreras was when he got killed.

      The rcmp/sq does warn them, when they have the info. They also revoked arcadi and del balso parole to put them in jail for their own protection afternoon giordano got killed. But ya it is kinda mind blowing how useless the cops have been. Montreals always been like the Wild West though, the biker wars were even worse than this one and the cops did pretty much nothing until an 11 year old boy died from a car bomb.

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