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  1. JohnGrant213

    No one with current or former ties to the Rizzuto family seems to be safe these days. Whomever is behind this assault on the Rizzuto’s has the power and reach to target just about anyone as they have made clear. Probably the only safe place for Del Balso now is behind bars and in somekind of protective lockdown even there. No chance this was just some random even not tied to his link to the Rizzuto’s.

    • Cedz

      me and tommy were just talking about this, its all over the news in Montreal. they arrested the assailants two punk kids, they showed up at his house asking for him. this was obviously a hit. during the pursuit the cops shot dead the assailants pitbull. absolutely crazy whats going on in Mtl and toronto.

      • Tommy

        That would also make sense as far as the HA connection as it seems the angels were still on good terms with the rizzuto/sollecito camp..

        Still, rizzuto and sollecito both come from traditional, old school and rule following families, not sure they’d send guys to bother a guys family. But I guess it’s hard to find good help, guys could’ve just been chached out and got reckless.

        If it was the rizzuto/sollecito camp this is a bad look for them on the street.

        • Cedz

          ya your right but these two bums were probably not authorized to hurt the guys family they may have taking this open themselves. none of these mobsters would do that. this would leave the door open for people hurting there fams.

          • Tommy

            Yea it’s true it puts delbalso in a sticky spot.. can’t exactly send a team to rough up the guys family. Or maybe he will

          • Cedz

            they got the guys who did it so its only a matter of time till delbaso gets the info he needs

    • Franco

      If someone sent these guys, they really picked the wrong guys. These guys seem half retarded, and were caught right away, no where near professional hitmen like the one/s doing hits this year in Ontario. I wonder if Del Balso will do something to these guys, maybe some black guy will be paid to assault these guys in prison or something. It will be hard for him though, because the cops are keeping a close eye on him.

      • Cedz

        these guys pointed guns at his wife and kids and assaulted them of course he gonna do something. sometimes its easy to pay a couple of bums with no obvious OC connections to go on a suicide mission.

      • Tommy

        Not all hits in Ontario have been clean.. remember the moka cafe incident. Jason Hay killed two innocents. Also the innocent girl killed a month or so ago.

        I was surprised Jason Hay didn’t flip

        • Franco

          The only non clean hits i can recall at the moment were the Moka cafe one, the one with the girl, and Louise Russo in 04. Alot of the botched hits often involve bikers or some black guy lmfao, although there is the occasional Italian associate that manages to fuck up.

          • Tommy

            The Russo case was pathetic

            Paralyze an innocent bystander pay restitution and do a little time. Money really talks.

            Speaking of that, haven’t heard anything about scarcella lately.

          • Franco

            Ya he is good at staying under the radar, he just got out of jail not long ago anyways. The sicilians still have a noticeable presence in the Vaughan and Toronto area, they are definitely around.

          • Tommy

            I’m not sure how much of a presence they have. Caruana gone, not hearing anything about scarcella, daniele ranieri still MIA. Modica I think in Italy.

            Torontos always been a ‘ndrangheta town with a Sicilian presence but now not seeing too many Sicilians

          • Franco

            I live in the area and I see them around, I am 100% certain, and even not too long ago some guys in scarcellas crew got arrested. As to what illegal stuff they do or how much money they make, I’m not sure. Basically any prominent italian wise guy who isn’t Calabrese or from the Reggio Calabria Region, is in with the sicilians. For instance, Sollecito is from Bari, another region of southern Italy. One exception is Franco Arcadi, he’s Calabrese but I’m not sure what part. Maybe he was just around from the old cotroni regime or wasn’t closely related to any ‘ndrangheta clans.

          • Tommy

            When did guys in scarcella crew get round up? I don’t rememebr that. And ya Bari is apulia.

            Seems keeping some of the calabrese guys around was a bad move for the rizzutos.

    • Tommy

      I’m starting to think it’s a combination of ‘ndrangheta infighting, and some Ontario clans in cahoots with the angels.

      The angels aren’t the organization they were 30-40 years ago, they have global reach as proven in Canada over the last five, ten years. Maybe they’re fed up being #2 to the Italians. They’ve got the manpower the reach and the money.

      • JohnGrant213

        That is a very interesting theory and your right the angels seem to be well organized and gaining in power once again with many of their guys making it back to the streets and they could definitely be behind this in some way. They sure seem to have the ambition to put those resources to work in an effort to make a move up.

        • Franco

          They are probably also being backed by mobsters, like ‘ndrangheta clans, that look to benefit form this as well, otherwise the leaders of the bikers would have been clipped a while ago. The only reason the Sicilian’s arent hitting back right now is because they are in disarray due to instability and crackdowns by law enforcement. One thing is for sure, the Sicilians are down, but definitely not out. I think things might die down after a few more people are clipped, the war might end soon.

          • Cedz

            that’s were a disagree I think the sicilians are hitting back I think a huge part of.this is arcadi Lorenzo (dead) and Delbaso taking on the solecito/rizzuto and company. there’s also old devito crew dejardins/dimulo crew. it’s very plausible even.probable one of these clans is Inot tight with ha

          • Franco

            It is known that it isnt as simple as Calabrians + allies vs Sicilians + allies, like you said there is multiple factions within their respective families and regional subsets that are against each other. There was even tension last year among two or three of the Toronto ‘ndrangheta clans, but it might have been settled for now.

          • Tommy

            Who knows if the d’amicos are playing a part too.

            Nicola varacalli warned the arcadi camp after his kidnapping not to underestimate the d’amicos.

          • Cedz

            bro at this point anything is plausible, i just read an interesting article. when they bugged the lawyers office Loris, soliceto was caught on tape debating if they should put a contract on Andrew Scoppa. i guess he did not wanna play ball. he called him a marshmallow no spine. they later decided against it.

          • Tommy

            The scoppas were aligned with the devito crew right?

            Weird how Loris defended members of both crews as in house counsel. I wouldn’t want my lawyer defending my enemy.

        • Tommy

          HA presence in Ontario is huge and they are starting to reestablish themselves in Quebec. They dominate BC, and in the last massive run to Ottawa they folded a nomads chapter for no apparent reason, could be to relocate the members to Quebec to get things going.

          Several high profile HA members shot over the last few years too, they’re for sure involved.

      • IntheknowD

        I think to an extent all f you are right. Think it’s a combonianation of everything stated. Basically a power vaccum and everyone trying to fill void. Also monopolizing on opportunity and chaos to settle old scores.

  2. puffdaugherty

    Unprecedented is right! Honestly I cannot think of a time in America that there has been an all out shooting war like this except maybe Chicago( Al Capone) era or maybe Castalamaresse war. I’m sure I didnt spell that correctly but I’m Irish so thats my excuse!!!

  3. puffdaugherty

    Its funny this image we as Anericans have always had of Canada but you look at this war and the Biker War, They are far from being soft up there.. Definitely some savage gangsters up there!

  4. Clinton CeeRay Fussell

    So it said that he contacted the police. That doesn’t sound like the gangster way of doing things, or maybe I misunderstood.

    • IntheknowD

      “The gangster way of doing things”… His f@&king wife and kids life’s were in jeopardy. Your comments remind me of the dumb sh@ts in one of those skits mocking “keeping it real”. It’s obvious you romanticize and glorify mob life like it is some honorable and noble thing.

      • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

        It’s obvious that you’re a cop loving bootlicker. Cops are just as f*****g bad there are numerous cases of police officer misdeeds. If I glorify the mob life you’re a f*****g bootlicker who glorifies the system. Which is worse?

        • Cedz

          again another stupid misguided posts nobody said anything about loving cops. there’s some really bad ones but there’s even more good ones. to say the police is just as bad as the mob is laughable. your all over the place bro

          • Tommy

            Wheels Maloney just sentenced to 10 years. Will be four considering his time served.

            West end gang appears to also be taking a bit of a bit lately

          • Cedz

            ya i just saw that, would have got longer if he wasnt in a wheel chair. weird thing to say but very nice guy. i guess like most gangster as long has you dont owe them money!

          • Tommy

            Absolutely.

            Guilty verdicts across the board for the Johnny raposo hit today too.

            Busy day for OC news.

          • Cedz

            reported in the French paper arcadi was released may 4. the Sq and rcmp have warned there’s a contract on his life

        • IntheknowD

          Everything you say is either contradicting, misguided, or utter nonsense. If you had any clue of those supposed “code” they re supposed to live by you would know family members are off limits. That being said, what way does it make him less “gangster” by calling the police? I suppose he should ve let it go and if they were killed exact revenge. That would be “keeping it real” and “gangster” wouldn’t. You are truly a f*****g birdbrain.

          • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

            I’m just saying that calling the police was an unexpected response. It’s not the way things been going down up there.

          • Tommy

            So let your family get assaulted and robbed and potentially killed?

            If anything he’d be a selfish coward for not having called the police, he knew he was gonna get breached and go back inside for calling the cops, he did it to protect his family.

            Don’t care who you are, family is off limits and if it takes the police to protect them so be it.

          • Cedz

            Hey Clinton why did you delete your comment about that not being the gangster way to handle things LOLOLOL. you dont stand by what you said anymore lol. bro your truly are a did shit…

          • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

            No I work 10 hours a day, don’t have time to sit on my phone all day like some people and keep up with replies.

          • IntheknowD

            What does that have to do with deleting a post? Not replying I could see chalking up to being busy. But taking time to delete that excuse doesn’t jive for bro.

    • Cedz

      this is not a movie or video game bro. his wife and kids had guns to there head’s! there civilians your not suppose to go after somebody’s family you say the stupidest shit

      • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

        Well if you want to talk about some mythological rule that they don’t go after your family, there’s also one that says under no circumstances do you run to the cops. Which one do you follow? The one that suits you at that time?

        And I’m going to let you hide behind your little anonymous nickname and talk your little shit from your safe place.

    • puffdaugherty

      I’ve been reading this site for quite some time but rarely comment. You just always manage to wind up on the hot seat dude! Ive definitely noticed that haha. Not sure if you mean to stir it up or not but that does seem to be the result constantly!

      • puffdaugherty

        Reminds me of a true story out here in California. A prominent member of one of the largest Biker Gangs was the victim of a hit and run. This guy made a report which is mandated by the insurance company. Later some of the young clowns in the club gave him shit saying thats cooperation with Law Enforcement. Totally ridiculous!!! He and several other older members turned in their patches upon realizing what their club had turned into!

  5. Clinton CeeRay Fussell

    Government commits false flag attacks against its own country to start illegal wars, bomb innocent children and civilians and take away freedoms – that’s fine. No reaction.

    A bunch of gangsters in Canada knock each other off – Time to pull out our moral handbooks and talk about honor and nobility.

      • Clinton CeeRay Fussell

        Shut that f*****g cliché about tinfoil hats up. Anyone who questions your history books or your television and all of a sudden they wear tinfoil hats.

        And I’m going to let you talk your little shit online behind your anonymous nickname, in your safe place. That’s all you can do.

  6. Tommy

    iPhone confiscated from laflamme berthelot in halfway house had photos linking him to the hells angels.

    Maybe my HA theory was more accurate than I thought. Also keep in mind del balso has had a beef with HA in the past.

    • Cedz

      ya i read that as well, these bums dont look like stand up guys good change they sing, maybe we will get some information shed some light because right now i have no clue what is going on

    • IntheknowD

      Yeah it doesn’t seem any where near as organized as everything else there has been. I’d guess it was someone trying to settle a beef and figures timing perfect as good chance it would ve been linked to all the others.

      • Tommy

        Yea I’m starting to think the del balso/arcadi/giordano faction is opposed to the rizzuto/sollecito group and the angels have sided with the rizzuto/sollecito camp.. sal cazetta was taken down in Magot/mastiff with rizzuto and sollecito, and mom Boucher was implicated in a plot to kill desjardins (who we know was trying to overthrow the rizzuto camp).. so looks like HA and rizzuto group are still working together. The consortium seems somewhat intact.

          • Tommy

            Ya I remember an HA or associate choked del balso out and giordano lit up the guys Porsche

            I think that guy got clipped, if I remember right

  7. Clinton CeeRay Fussell

    Are any of the details to what’s going on in the Vito Rizzuto book Business or Blood? It seems like it should answer a lot of questions.

      • Cedz

        one of the best book i have read however the information is only relevent from when Rizzuto gets picked up until his death maybe a few months after so around early 2014. around the hit on Ducarme which was a few months after Don Vitos death. so it doesnt shed any light on the renewed tensions post 2015. however GREAT account of the war up until his death very informative!!

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