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  1. JohnGrant213

    Borgesi definitely seems to be on the rise again and even though he used to be a wild card now he seems like he is more about his business and has been doing things quietly of late. I am not sure that he moves up the latter all the way up to the top anytime soon but with some aging guy and others not really wanting a title on their backs I could see him moving up the ladder into a higher position in near future. Who knows what will happen with Merlino but if he gets 15-20 years not sure he can again hold on to the reigns from behind bars like he did before.

  2. Savin Rock AL

    I’m not a personal fan of George Borgesi..but I respect that he is stand up guy….he was put in solitary confinement for almost 18 months and never cracked…..Marty Angelina should have been dealt with much more severe for raiding borgesi rackets……George is making money in real estate and other enterprises…..His reputation is respected by patriarch family members…he may move up in Philly mob….but many people as in me don’t prefer him as boss ev

      • JohnGrant213

        Yes that I think is one of bigger questions when it comes to the next boss in Philly, who really wants it. I think Mazzone would be a front runner since he has filled that acting role competently in the past but I wonder if he really wants that official title on his back long term. I think the feds will hold “official boss” title over Joey for a while even if he would be replaced because they love hammering the guy and want him to be that big ticket item they have locked away but as mentioned in article not sure he holds sway anymore if he gets sent away for another 15-20.

        • The mafia

          Borgesi has always been ambitious so if anyone was going to make a move for it would be him but its 2017 mob these guys are not kids anymore and the life is not the same don’t think they are going to start killing each other over it member a few years ago everyone saying there was going to be a mob war with the scarfo guys we don’t know enough yet I even question how much control merlino has in that family

          • JohnGrant213

            I think the chance is definitely there esp if Mazzone decides he doesn’t want to hang that target on his back long term and it would make sense that if Ligambi decides to retire and the opportunity is there he would at least in spirit back his nephew if he was making a move. Plus as you mentioned they aren’t kids anymore so most likely if he had some backing there may end up being little resistance at least from the guys in Joey’s camp.

          • Daniel Perrotta

            I believe what will come to be will be and that’s that. Keeping your mouth shut should not be seen as any remarkable act, it’s simply the right and only thing to do no matter what. It’s my understanding many years ago no one spoke of anything to the feds, it wasn’t thought of and tho that rule was broken by many it’s still a disgraceful thought.

          • The mafia

            agreed there has always been rats since the beginning but witness protection which they made in the 70s changed everything rats were now able to rat and stay alive but it is true back then more people believed in the life and the streets than now the 90s was when all these guys started flipping there had been major rats before then franntino in the 70s and Lombardo in the 80s but the 90s was when it became a major problem even today its not as bad as it was in the 90s the reason for that is a lot of people were getting killed in the 90s some guys were flipping because they were looking at serious time or out of fear. There was also a lot of leading guys like gravano D’Arco DeFede people began to feel like everyone was ratting the life was dead.

            Keeping your mouth shut I agree should not be a remarkable act however it should be respected even infact it is respected especially today because ratting is wrong but the deals the feds are offering these days are crazy and most of these guys know the “life” is dead nothing like it used to be so guys doing there time are respected if someone does ten years gets out he has respect on the streets he will get something when he gets out and will gain respect on the streets guys who have never done any time are sometimes looked down at or they are questioned. Guys who have done serious time are in a lot of cases trusted over some who have never gone to prison

          • Daniel Perrotta

            If it’s true that the life is not really the life any longer, that’s a real shame and order should certainly be restored by any means necessary. One thing you metioned that really burns me up is that rats were able to rat and live and that to me is and always has been, very disgraceful!! Perhaps that is a large part of why the life became, not so much. It is my firm , serious, and golden rule never to be broken no matter what that even if I was to become simply an associate to the life and something went down causing feds to start breathing heavy –even if my family ie: wife/kids or anyone else was on the line or I was facing life in solitary confinement, I would very proudly stay silent 100% and even sooner cut my own neck wide open rather than ever think of speaking one word of any business matters conducted . And to me that’s all no problem or anything to be given anything close to a second thought. As I said before it’s the only option! That said ,may all rats end up really dead! ! I hope to one day see order restored to the life!

          • The mafia

            I agree ratting I will always consider to be wrong however I have never sat there facing real time but I do agree I cant imagine myself ever ratting i would hate myself sending another man to prison just so you can escape for doing the same crimes the effect it will have on there familys i know that well plus no one forces you to get involved in that life

            as for killing rats not happening there is a few exceptions out there who would still do it but most of these guys are not risking a life sentence for killing someone who has already ratted and is not benefiting them by killing him the life has changed

      • The mafia

        if any of those guys are going to make a move for the boss it would be borgesi always been very ambitious as for this meeting not sure if true though it does make sense back in the 90s it was borgesi who brought bobby lusi in and he knew all of that crew some who are still in the streets

    • JohnGrant213

      He seems to be a bit too rambunctious to be boss material but then again their have been guys who should not have been at the top make it there so.

    • The mafia

      he is stand up and ambitious don’t think he is the right guy to lead anything his personality he is crazy plus he cant help bringing rats around bobby lusi Lou Moncellao,Aponick and DiGiacomo I actually believe Aponick and Moncellao now before I had my doubts even if they Moncellao especially were wannabes everything they said geogre would do has happened so I do think borgesi offered to make him a made guy for 10k now was geogre just trying to scam him or was he really going to do it who knows we will never know

  3. Bigeasy91

    I think the best move this mob made was keep merlino as boss, he is in florida doing deals and hogging the spotlight while the philly mob is making money and going more down the legit route.. hats off philly keep up the good work

  4. Anthony Morena

    I really dont think Borgesi is boss material but well see i do agree with everyone that Stevey is gonna assume acting boss if Joey goes away but well see. Borgesi is doing things right though, staying quiet, getting into legit business and making and keeping the right connections. Meeting with New York and NE could only help him in the end if he wants to make a run for boss. Also his ties with Guglimeti are ones i personally didnt know about but once again smart move. Matty G is well respected across the board, a real gangster and alot more powerful then people think. Always thought he should be the top guy over there but im sure he has a big hand in running things. I could see Georgi in some type of an underboss role though.

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