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  1. JohnGrant213

    Well it seemed like Stango was done for from the start so no shock he finally cops a plea. Plus those conversations seem to signal that the hierarchy of the DeCavalcante family over in Jersey is still functioning and making policy.

    • Bigeasy91

      if nigro is the consigliere who is the boss/underboss ? it was a smart move from nigro and colella not to give a direct answer they were probably suspicious.

      • JohnGrant213

        Some people believe it may be Charles Majuri who currently holds the reigns but it really is unclear as to how exactly has stepped into the role as boss after passing of Guarraci.

          • JohnGrant213

            Really hard to put an actual dollar figure out there as so much is unknown and includes a lot of guess work. But the NJ family like most isn’t what it once was so they don’t earn nearly as much as they were 20 yrs ago etc. Plus NJ has crews operating there form the NY families as well so that also lightens the earning power of the DeCavalcante’s some as well.

          • bellomo boss

            True. I guess I’m just curious as to how successful they are, versus just being a neighborhood thing. As you mentioned, Luchese’s and Genovese have always had huge presence there. Other families as well, it’s like a damn open city lol.

          • JohnGrant213

            Yes I think it more or less has become somewhat of an open city in a way. The Gambino’s from recent reports have a strong presence there too and it has been reported by some that the NJ family is now under the Gambino family flag.

          • bellomo boss

            I know Gotti had deep connections with them in late 80s, early 90s. So a gambino influence makes sense. Seems to me these guys get the short end of the stick. I mean basically all the NYC families have hands in jersey, how can these guys make a living? It’s not like they could dare challenge a made guy from one of the big three. Hell, a Genovese soldier likely has more influence than a jersey captain. A thousand wise guys all chasing the same nickel.

      • eddiea

        With Stango already being away in LV and Nigro/Collela really getting okay,could this be away of getting info to “whack” Stango? I mean you can’t kill a Made Guy w/o permission and if you do you get killed. Or has that been “lost ” too,in New Mafia?

        • JohnGrant213

          I think if Stango had taken things into his own hands and carried out the hit then he could of def faced some kind of action for moving forward without an okay. But doubt it would of led to him getting clipped unless that order came from say the Gambino hierarchy.

  2. AlexM

    I’m pretty ignorant regarding mafia etiquette, but this Stango seems to be made correct, then what the fuck is up with all these made guys getting caught on tape by undercover fbi agents? Like before they discuss incriminating info with non made guys, is it too much to ask them to strip to check if they are wearing a wire? I realize that calling someone out like this is disrespectful and can warrant retaliation, but what can a non made guy really do. If I were in LCN, you can be for sure that I would be careful with who I talked business too, alot of these guys nowadays seem to talk too much….

    • JohnGrant213

      A lot definitely has changed over the years that is for sure. Plus as you mentioned this wasn’t the smartest move in the world by Stango (who is made, yes) and the others.

      • AlexM

        when you say alot has changed, do you mean that they aren’t being as safe and proactive as before? Frankly, with the other case involving Merlino and the other guys with the undercover fbi agent, I hope a book or a movie or something could come out documenting everything. Undercover operations are so interesting and fascinating to learn about.

        • JohnGrant213

          Yes the understanding of staying “low key” and under the radar has definitely been lost on some of the guys today. Now it is of course not as easy to operate today with technology and feds massive budgets and not get caught but one would think this would lead to guys being even more cautious but it doesn’t seem to be the case hence this case against Stango. And your right the latest East Coast LCN case is definitely an interesting twist on things.

          • richjerk1929

            in the 70s the music was so loud from the jukebox in carmine persico’s club that you couldn;t hear yourself think ,,

      • bellomo boss

        I know this is off-topic but did you ever see the video of Joey when he first got out of jail? TMZ was interviewing him as he was getting into convertible and he was with some other guy. do you happen to know who that guy was by chance ? It was the video where Joey said he was out of the life because there’s too many rats

    • bellomo boss

      I agree, you would assume being overly cautious would be a given. The stronger families, made guys are better at staying low key. As mentioned recently, NYC has some old school powerhouses back in charge. I think in this case, Charles probably enjoyed getting his ego stroked and spoke too freely. I can’t imagine he’s wealthy, so his ego and title are all he has.

      Joey was pretty careful this time, I think it was the Genovese faction that I actually did more damage. which is surprising but I think Joey was actually the more cautious one. Which is part of the reason he’s out on bail or at least in my opinion .

      • Bigeasy91

        joey merlino is going to be one of the last flashy mob bosses/capos to exist in the new modern mafia, we know he still has close mob pals in philly but they must be relieved that he isn’t runnin things.. even they’ve went back to old school, keeping low profile.

        • bellomo boss

          Joey is definitely still running things in Philly. He’s ruling through Mazzone and Ligambi.

          I do agree that they are likely relieved he’s in Florida, less attention in them in philly.

          I think there will always be a Joey, gotti, desimone, etc. some just love the spotlight and being a gangster.

          • JohnGrant213

            Agreed even though its bad for business there will always be that “Joey” type around somewhere.

        • Bigeasy91

          there will no doubt be egotistic mobsters now and in the future but I don’t see any rising to top from now on, they cant kill their way to the top and their are more zips coming over with different ideas.

    • IntheknowD

      What after they strip search them, then conduct business butt naked? Do you have any idea how small listening devices are these days??

      Even if butt naked they could easily slide one of these devices barely under skin. Maybe blare music? Well they also have capability of filtering out sounds. The harsh reality for them is being a criminal is a very risky proposition these days. As far as being cautious of who they do business with, well unless they ve known person forever, under covers and informants probably have fictions info put out to make them look even safer to do business with. Without doing business with new people/fresh opportunities they’d be starved out in no time.

      Not to mention any good racket they conceive the govmt eventually hands over to big business and taxes. Be it lotto/numbers. drugs/opiate meds. Gambling/Casinos. Etc.

      • bellomo boss

        I definitely agree modern times make it infinitely more difficult. Couple this with RICO laws, brutal sentences, the mafia from 30-80’s is over. It will likely never reclaim that power, revue and most certainly political connections.

        As mentioned, Three of the five NYC families are flourishing, relatively speaking of course. The war on terror has taken much of the spotlight off the mafia. These three families in particular have woven themselves into a copious amount of legitimate businesses . They even pay taxes, they are smarter than the street guys who were running things for a bit. My loquacious post is to say this. There is clearly still an effective way to flourish within the mafia. It’s why three very powerful mafia bosses haven’t seen a jail cell in 8-15 years.

    • IntheknowD

      Lol. Yeah, I can understood to a point when they get busted in face to face meetings. Part of risk they take surviving by committing crimes. As far as conducting any criminal activity over fun should have been stopped over 20 years ago. That’s before giving countless others access to your phone via apps.

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